If These Walls Could Talk 2 is a television film in the United States, broadcast on HBO. The house is now inhabited by Fran (Sharon Stone) and Kal (Ellen DeGeneres), a couple hoping to have a baby together. They hope to get a sperm. Just a few months ago, Heche, 31, and Ellen DeGeneres, 42, were singing each Heche directed DeGeneres and Sharon Stone in a segment about a She first emerged as a gossip page item when she began dating Steve. Sharon Stone will be joining us in a little while. She's on the way over. With us now are Ellen DeGeneres and Anne Heche. Anne directed and.
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I don't buy it at all. I don't buy it either. The most natural thing in the world is falling in love with somebody. I mean, to me, I didn't think for one second about gender.
But you grew up, you were heterosexual, you thought you were heterosexual Until you met Ellen, you had not had a lesbian relationship before.
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So when you had the feeling, did it feel unnatural? And that was the thing that I think everybody had a problem with me when I whatever, as I say, came in, didn't come out, came into my love, it was the most natural thing in the world and exciting, and wonderful, and fabulous. But weren't you surprised at yourself? Did you look in the mirror and say, "What's going on? But I didn't have any -- it didn't make me go, "Oh, gee, this is You never thought "something is wrong with me. It actually righted me.
For me, it was the most natural thing. Like, oh, wow, this is that thing when anybody says you're going to fall in love, and you'll know it when you do. And that was that for me. So that was the most natural thing in the world. It became strange in the consequences of it. Because we have stories now of women in their fifties discovering this.
People married with three kids discovering this. And it's because they're -- I have to really qualify what Anne just said because she's the most evolved person I've ever met. She's my little Buddha. I mean, she is this evolved, amazing being. I didn't have that easy of a time. I was dating men and dating women I was going back and forth.
And it was still, I was considered bisexual. I was saying, "I still like men. This is just this girl. When you dated a man, how did you feel? I liked -- I have always liked men. I mean, I was boy crazy growing up. I was obsessed with boys and men. You weren't a tomboy then? I was a tomboy. But I still liked men. But when it came to sexuality, I was the only virgin in high school.
I didn't have the desire to be with a man sexually. Did you wonder about that? No, I just thought I was a good girl, you know. Really, you had that feeling?
I actually had the song, which was really But anyway, so, it was not a natural thing for me. But when I was with a woman, it was. But it took me a long time because, I mean, Anne is just an amazing All right, when you were with men, it felt natural to you, didn't it? Did you love a man? I was in relationships where I loved the man that I was with very much.
It didn't feel like this was the -- it never felt It never felt like But you never felt "is that all there is? And as for the unnaturalness, I was raised with a very religious upbringing.
It should have been as unnatural to me sleeping with a man before I was married as it would be me being with a woman. I mean, there were so many rules and things that were laid out that were the rights and wrongs of how to be in a relationship.
So you know, that was unnatural in an argument between my mother and me too about moving in with a man before I was married to him. There are a lot of things that were laid down for me. We'll take a break and come back and ask if they really think programs like this "If These Walls Could Talk" help, or are they preaching to the choir.
It's our anniversary on Oscar night. So that's more important to us. So happy anniversary to us. That's all we care about. Let's talk about us for a while. Have a great night. Do you think the program "If These Walls," programs like this, do you think they're just watched by people who are sympathetic?
Or do you think those who differ -- think from you differently watch and learn? What do you think? I mean, I watch a lot of heterosexual love stories that I think are beautiful movies and beautiful stories.
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And just because I am gay doesn't say, "Oh, I can't relate to that as a man and a woman. But do you think it can help change people, Anne, people who might be thinking the other way? We've evolved some way. Television must have had something to do with it. Film must have had something to do with it. The intent is not to change -- again, the intent is to bring familiarity. And what that familiarity means to me is when we start to understand that we're all based in the same human emotion.
We have the same emotion as any other couple. And that to me is what some of the people who have seen it have come to me and said like, "I get it. I'm starting to get it. You love the same way I love. You argue the same way I argue. I can't relate to that whatsoever. So this couple, and the couple that I made a movie about, have the same emotion as any other straight couple. And that's the most I can hope for people to understand. With all these strides, Ellen, have we tapped in at all to why I'm heterosexual and you're not.
Do we know why? And I don't think Well, it matters because there's a great argument. Can what you do affect -- if you were teachers, can you affect young girls to be interested in lesbianism who might not want to be?
That's one of the arguments of the other side. But if you're teaching That you affect people. If you're teaching math, I don't know how that's going to influence somebody. What's that got to do with anything? I don't think teachers talk about their home life.
And so that's a kind of crazy argument. And there are more -- well, I don't even want to get into that. We don't have an answer as to why you are the way you are. We don't know that. It's like not knowing why we like bananas, and you don't like -- I like them and you don't. I actually do like them. I like them too, but my son hates them. See, we're exactly the same. But we don't know why my little baby hates them. But the intent is never -- I mean, one of the things that you say, the intent is never to recruit anybody.
We just want to have our own -- enjoy Well, the other side thinks you are -- they think there is some sort of vast army conspiracy here.
Yes, but that is a bunch of malarkey. For everybody to be gay, which of course would stop the planet from growing. That's not going to happen. I mean, it's just -- it's insane to think that, I mean, why would we want that?
I mean, why can't we celebrate all of our differences, our diversity? Why can't we embrace that? It's like how you are saying how you grew up in Brooklyn, having a melting pot of different types of people That's what the world is.
I don't think God makes mistakes. We're all -- why are there white people and black people and brown people? You know, we're all just human beings. And why does it matter who I love and who you love? And it should be celebrated that we found love at all. Love is the most important thing that you can find in your life.
And if you have it, then good for you. I think for me it was genetic. I do think it's genetic. I think I feel it. And I look back and I was clearly, clearly -- that's Let me get a break. And we'll be back with more. Ellen did mention to me during the break that she was very upset, as is Anne, about "Who Wants to Marry a Multi-Millionaire? Why does that -- it upsets you both as a lesbian and as a human being?
Well, more than anything as a woman. Just that women would line up to sell themselves. They line up, it's like a beauty pageant. It doesn't matter what he looks like. This guy could be a complete dog. The actress was released within two hours and by Monday morning, she was on a flight to Toronto, where she began work on the film John Q with Denzel Washington.
Now begins the aftermath. Representatives of Heche and DeGeneres are not yet addressing the matter. Heche had kept a relatively low profile for the last several months, after receiving mixed reviews starring opposite Harrison Ford in the disappointing Six Days, Seven Nights. All the while, like a happily married woman, Heche wore a wedding ring. We hope everyone will respect our privacy through this difficult time. She also has starred in the remake of Psycho as well as Volcano and Return to Paradise.
Born in Ohio, she was discovered after a talent scout from the daytime drama As The World Turns spotted her in a high school play.
She turned down an offer because she was just 15 years old and taking the job would have forced her family to relocate to New York. The others soon leave and Linda stays behind and dances with Amy. Later, Amy gives Linda a ride home on her motorcycle and they kiss. Linda invites Amy to return the next day. The next day Linda and the others are arguing with a woman from the feminist group when Amy arrives. Linda is embarrassed and is short with Amy who quickly leaves.
Linda's friends tease her about Amy and question how they can be taken seriously as feminists if they associate with people like Amy. They cannot understand why a woman would dress like a man when they have fought so hard to escape such stereotypical roles.
Linda goes to Amy's house and apologizes. The next morning Linda sees a picture of Amy as a child, dressed like a boy. She asks Amy if Amy is supposed to be the man and Linda the woman. Amy says no and accuses Linda of being afraid that people will know what she is if she is seen with Amy.
Amy goes to Linda's house for dinner. Linda urges her friends to give Amy a chance but an awkward evening deteriorates when Linda's friends criticize Amy and try to make her change her clothes.